tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5768137172911166572024-03-05T08:00:28.974-06:00Czech out your Ancestors!Czech Out Your AncestorsKate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.comBlogger254125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-91984630848849468352017-11-28T17:17:00.003-06:002017-11-28T17:17:57.732-06:00Jewish Gravestones in Kouřim Cemetery<div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;">
<span style="font-family: inherit; white-space: pre-wrap;">On our recent trip to the Czech Republic we went to Kouřim. Fun fact: this is the location of the geographical center of Europe! </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Here we went to a cemetery to view some graves of my friend’s ancestors. In this cemetery there was a corner that was reserved only for Jews. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">My friend Chesky Weingarten translated some of the headstones, and they are really quite interesting. Most of the headstones have both Hebrew and Czech, which shows that the community had adapted at least to some degree to Czech culture. </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><img height="540" src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/fRWTKpeACZCWYJC6CSJyXdeAnaoikUlybr7KBjzpecN7rjR0I0vx8d5mRK3P4fF_LpMCsPP_QR_SNePlU3fckFJ8s8mksnMPn-zsxe6kdyUg6DLNcsDxmN8JnUdUqq2x3K0AzY1Y" style="-webkit-transform: rotate(0.00rad); border: none; transform: rotate(0.00rad);" width="720" /></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Two of the headstones which are written only in Hebrew are for Jews who came from Galicia who died during World War I in Kouřim. Did they escape the Russian army who pillaged and destroyed their hometowns in Galicia? Were they refugees who died far from home? What is the story?</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: #212121; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">He was from the town of "Linsk" Galicia</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">But where is Linsk? What exactly is “Galicia”? Apparently, </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia_(Eastern_Europe)" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Galicia</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> is a geographic area of Eastern Europe which has no modern political borders, but overlaps between modern Poland and Ukraine. It is also somehow connected to </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruthenia" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Ruthenia</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, homeland of the Ruthenians (or Rusyns). These people were apparently ethnically similar to Czechs and Slovaks because the </span><a href="http://cgsi.org/" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Czechoslovak Genealogical Society International</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> includes them under it umbrella of interest.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I still am not really sure how to find out where “Linsk” is. But at least I can upload about 25 headstones online so that someday, somewhere, somebody who might be searching for them will be able to find them. One of the headstones was completely covered in bugs and laying against the wall. To get a good photograph took the strength of two men to prop it up while I squeezed between it and the cemetery wall and took several photos, getting covered in beetles in the process. Definitely worth it, though.</span></span></div>
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Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-21821253969674942802017-10-18T23:41:00.001-05:002017-10-18T23:44:08.068-05:00Silesian Emigrant Ancestor Indexes 1879-1881, 1889<div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;">
<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">If your ancestors emigrated to America from the Czech lands in the second half of the 19th century, records of their emigration might exist in the local archives, in particular for those who left later.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">For example, </span><a href="http://digi.archives.cz/da/permalink?xid=E71DDDA883A611E187A40025649FEBC7" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">here</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> are Silesian applications for foreign emigration 1877-1879. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="http://digi.archives.cz/da/permalink?xid=E71DD72083A611E187A40025649FEBC7" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Here</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> are Silesian applications for foreign emigration 1880-1881.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="http://digi.archives.cz/da/permalink?xid=E71DDC7783A611E187A40025649FEBC7" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Here</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> are Silesian applications for foreign emigration for 1889.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Several years ago, my cousin went to the archives and looked at these records. He found my great great great uncle Jan Šumbera’s emigration records and photographed them. There was a file for each of the emigrants with several pieces of paper. For Jan there were about 6. Here are some of them: </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">It seems like the sum total for 8 persons to travel to America was 8,000 fr. I wonder how much that would be converted to today’s dollars. I also wonder if we can use this document to determine more about the trip itself: how long was it exactly, what exact route did they take, etc. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Here they are listed as going to Amerika /: Texas :/ - those funny brackets with colons are like parenthesis in old records.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Look how detailed of a record this is, giving the exact names and birth dates for all family members, including the wife’s maiden name.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #2c2c2c; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">ZEMSKÁ VLÁDA SLEZSKÁ V OPAVĚ (1747)1850 - 1928</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">43</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">1192</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #2c2c2c; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span><a href="http://digi.archives.cz/da/BookVolume.action?browseAid=&pagerCompStateId=PAGER_RESULT_BOOK&paginatorCompStateId=PAGINATOR_RESULT_BOOK&entity=%28%5En%29%28%28%28localArchiv%2C%5En%2Chot_%29%28unidata%29%29%2882117%29%29" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #d60000; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">II. Spisový materiál</span></a><span style="background-color: white; color: #2c2c2c; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span><a href="http://digi.archives.cz/da/BookVolume.action?browseAid=&pagerCompStateId=PAGER_RESULT_BOOK&paginatorCompStateId=PAGINATOR_RESULT_BOOK&entity=%28%5En%29%28%28%28localArchiv%2C%5En%2Chot_%29%28unidata%29%29%2882985%29%29" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #d60000; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">B. Spisy</span></a><span style="background-color: white; color: #2c2c2c; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span><a href="http://digi.archives.cz/da/BookVolume.action?browseAid=&pagerCompStateId=PAGER_RESULT_BOOK&paginatorCompStateId=PAGINATOR_RESULT_BOOK&entity=%28%5En%29%28%28%28localArchiv%2C%5En%2Chot_%29%28unidata%29%29%2883110%29%29" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #d60000; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Všeobecná registratura</span></a><span style="background-color: white; color: #2c2c2c; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span><a href="http://digi.archives.cz/da/BookVolume.action?browseAid=&pagerCompStateId=PAGER_RESULT_BOOK&paginatorCompStateId=PAGINATOR_RESULT_BOOK&entity=%28%5En%29%28%28%28localArchiv%2C%5En%2Chot_%29%28unidata%29%29%2883111%29%29" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #d60000; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I. Manipulační období 1850 - 1909</span></a></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Inventory Number:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">1054</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Signature:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Date range:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">1877-1879</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Type of registration unit:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">karton</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Registration unit No.:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">238</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Content:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #2c2c2c; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Povolování vystěhovalectví do ciziny, propouštění ze svazku rakousko-uherské monarchie.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Finding aid’s title:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Finding aid’s No.:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">43</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">1192</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #2c2c2c; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span><a href="http://digi.archives.cz/da/BookVolume.action?browseAid=&pagerCompStateId=PAGER_RESULT_BOOK&paginatorCompStateId=PAGINATOR_RESULT_BOOK&entity=%28%5En%29%28%28%28localArchiv%2C%5En%2Chot_%29%28unidata%29%29%2882117%29%29" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #d60000; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">II. Spisový materiál</span></a><span style="background-color: white; color: #2c2c2c; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span><a href="http://digi.archives.cz/da/BookVolume.action?browseAid=&pagerCompStateId=PAGER_RESULT_BOOK&paginatorCompStateId=PAGINATOR_RESULT_BOOK&entity=%28%5En%29%28%28%28localArchiv%2C%5En%2Chot_%29%28unidata%29%29%2882985%29%29" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #d60000; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">B. Spisy</span></a><span style="background-color: white; color: #2c2c2c; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span><a href="http://digi.archives.cz/da/BookVolume.action?browseAid=&pagerCompStateId=PAGER_RESULT_BOOK&paginatorCompStateId=PAGINATOR_RESULT_BOOK&entity=%28%5En%29%28%28%28localArchiv%2C%5En%2Chot_%29%28unidata%29%29%2883110%29%29" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #d60000; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Všeobecná registratura</span></a><span style="background-color: white; color: #2c2c2c; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span><a href="http://digi.archives.cz/da/BookVolume.action?browseAid=&pagerCompStateId=PAGER_RESULT_BOOK&paginatorCompStateId=PAGINATOR_RESULT_BOOK&entity=%28%5En%29%28%28%28localArchiv%2C%5En%2Chot_%29%28unidata%29%29%2883111%29%29" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #d60000; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I. Manipulační období 1850 - 1909</span></a></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">1054</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Signature:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">43</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">1192</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">1054</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">karton</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Registration unit No.:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">245</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">My cousin also transcribed all of the surnames for emigrants for these three record sets. Since he was transcribing from German, and not all of the surnames were familiar, he warns that his transcriptions are not perfect. Also, be aware that this includes people who lived squarely in Moravia. Why did they apply in the Silesian office? Who knows. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">My own ancestors were from Velké Kunčice, a village which essentially was razed to make way for the steel mill expansions and mining industry. Jan’s younger brother, my third great granda Ludvig Šumbera, worked in the </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%ADtkovice_(Ostrava)" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Vítkovice Steel Mill</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> as a steel melter and pourer. He suffered from a severe burn on his leg when molten metal accidentally spilled on him. His knee was badly scarred and he walked with a limp for the rest of his life. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I have an antique art deco clock which makes me think of him. Apparently one of his hobbies was tinkering with clocks. He had one in every room which he wound every Sunday, and according to his granddaughter, Elsie Stavinoha, “they had better be synchronized with the others.” There are so few of these kinds of details about my Czech ancestors. I treasure these details. Whether or not he owned the antique clock which I inherited, or if he even had the chance to see it ever, I am sure he would have appreciated it. It belonged to his other granddaughter, my great grandma Betty. My dad remembers it chiming in her house. She married my great grandpa Vašíček in 1919. Grandpa Šumbera died in 1927. It is possible, then, that he saw the clock, which makes me smile.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Are any of your ancestors on these lists? Do you want to acquire the actual record? Let’s talk, because I know how to get them! </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">21 Wagner</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">22 Groger</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">43 Skumovitz</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">45 Ziebolz</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">53 Pejkart</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">56 Schindt</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">59 Handel</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">62 Fessarek</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">81 Kanta</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">94 Lauger</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">96 Bannert</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">97 Kandler</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">98 Springer</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">99 Pilzer</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">101 Lienert</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">102 Kzal</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">103 Schwanke</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">104 Wiedman</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">105 Reichel</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">106 Lauchert</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">107 Grosss</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">108 Heissig</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">109 Pilzer</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">110 Wiesner</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">112 Jarisch</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">116 Atzler</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">117 Zimmer</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">119 Schindler</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">120 Heissig</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">121 Spiller</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">122 Heinke</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">123 Klaz</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">124 Gorlich</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">125 Schifller</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">126 Schumbera</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">127 Stanzel</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">128 Schmidt</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">129 Jorge</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">132 Moser</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">133 Schwanke</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">134 Soltner</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">135 Menzel</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">136 Atzler</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">137 Hampel</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">139 Simon</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">140 Schwanke</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">1 Kalus</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Bílovec</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">5 Rindt </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">8 Szymurda</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">11 Hanke</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">14 Krupa</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">15 Kirchner</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">16 Kruper</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">17 Badjura</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">18 Magerle</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">19 Mrowetz</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">35 Wujtek</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">37 Franke</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">39 Kirsch</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">42 Nertwig</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">43 Neugebauer</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">44 Ludwig</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Raskovice</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">49 Kudel</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">54 Hluchy</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">56 Hlubek</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">57 Kupka</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">59 Beilner</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">62 Oschanetz</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">64 Gellnar</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">67 Pilzer</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">71 Kuffel</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">72 Ronge</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Tyra</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">76 Glater</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">78 Heinzel</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">79 Schiessel</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">80 Galistal</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">84 Ertel</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">86 Banke</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">87 Hosse</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">88 Pesche</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">89 Veidlich</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">90 Pawlorek </span></span></div>
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<br />Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-42437686244975048232017-09-07T22:47:00.002-05:002017-09-07T22:47:38.892-05:00Czech Birth Matrika Templates<div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;">
<span style="font-family: inherit;">A request was made on the Czech Genealogy Facebook group for a some templates for Czech matriky records. <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sU_-tOfqB1VRI-L6GzL_wej0hOLpQZrJouvOa8mMhhg/edit?usp=sharing">Here</a> is my work in progress, which you may freely use. It is not complete. I welcome any additions and corrections. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="color: red;"><b>To add: anything from the 15th*-17th centuries, early 18th century, 20th century</b></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: xx-small;">*It is not common for matriky records to go back this far. But I have heard that they do in some places. Maybe you know where?</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><b><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sU_-tOfqB1VRI-L6GzL_wej0hOLpQZrJouvOa8mMhhg/edit?usp=sharing">Czech Birth Matrika Templates</a> </b></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; white-space: pre-wrap;">Mid 18th century before house numbering and matriky reforms of Josef II ca 1780</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I was confused about why the matriky in use today are stored in matriční úřady (registrar’s office), not in the farnost (parish). This did not make sense to me. Catholics who get baptized want to still keep matriky books today, because they are a record of a religious ordinance/rites. How can the government justify itself by keeping and holding onto this record?</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I decided to try to discover what specific chain of events led to where and how the matriky are kept today, so of course I asked my friend </span><a href="http://kulanuvrodopisnyblog.blogspot.cz/" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Lukáš</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, and together we wrote this post. </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: red; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><b>Update:</b></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: red; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">many thanks to my 4th cousin Josef Petr who added some additional insight which was missing before. I appreciate it!</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">First, what are matriky? The old matriky are church books, or parish registers, and here of course we mainly mean Catholic church books. </span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_Trent">Council of Trent</a> (1545-1563) required Catholic parishes to keep matriky records. Previous to then, it was not compulsory, but in some places those registers were kept. It would be amazing if any survived the Thirty Years War for us to be able to see (or touch!) in our day. Remember that resources which we take for granted today, like paper and writing utensils, were not as widespread back then. In fact, though it was technically required by canon law, some places did not manage to start keeping matriky records until Josef II's rules in the 18th century, for example, Hungary.</span></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Starting during the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War">Thirty Years' War</a> (1618-1648) and lasting for long after, many small villages had to group consolidate together to form parishes. Remember, something like 40% of the population of the Czech lands was wiped out during this time period. With so many villages gathering together in one farnost (parish), they became dependent on one parish priest, and maybe one or two clerks who helped him. And they had to record every birth, marriage, and death. You can imagine it was not a welcome task. Parish registers before the reforms of Josef II are therefore not as detailed or complete, if they actually managed to survive through the centuries from the devastation of fires. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_II,_Holy_Roman_Emperor" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #1155cc; font-style: italic; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Joseph Benedikt Anton Michael Adam</span></a><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-style: italic; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, or you could go with his official title, His Royal Highness Archduke Joseph of Austria, Prince Royal of Hungary and Bohemia, Prince of Tuscany, etc. but for short, let’s just call him Joseph II. He was the son of </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Theresa" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: white; color: #1155cc; font-style: italic; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Marie Theresa</span></a><span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-style: italic; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. These two “enlightened monarchs” made huge reforms which permanently changed the Czech lands forever, and probably for the better. They are still well respected and loved today.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The first official connection between the matriky and the government happened during the reign of Joseph II (who ruled from 1765-1790). The church started keeping matriky for the state’s use (for example taxes, military drafts, etc), so</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit; white-space: pre-wrap;"> the state regulated “how to keep them”. For example, you will notice that around 1780 matriky start to be kept in separate books for births, marriages, and deaths. Villages which were in the same parish also started to be kept separately, and other changes in record-keeping occurred. This is all because of Joseph II’s reforms. </span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Protestants were still recorded in the Catholic matriky, though they keep unofficial “private” matriky for themselves. In fact, this is kind of a parallel to the situation we have today, but we’re getting ahead of ourselves.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">~1870 was the first time in the Czech lands when people were allowed to remain “without confession” - aka leave the church. Those outside the church were registered in civilní matriky kept by okresní úřady.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Let’s not forget the </span><a href="https://kramerius.army.cz/search/r.jsp?collection=vc:55e54b4d-af39-4050-b6c6-de053dbd8a70&offset=0&forProfile=dateaxis&da_od=01.01.1918&da_do=31.12.1918" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">vojenské matriky</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> (soldier’s registers), which began in 1768 and were kept by regimental priests for the military personnel. By the way, this system survived until 1950’s.</span></span></div>
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Some of the darkest times for the Czech lands was during <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_occupation_of_Czechoslovakia">German occupation</a> (1939-1945), when it was officially known as the <a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protektor%C3%A1t_%C4%8Cechy_a_Morava">Protektorát Čechy a Morava</a>, or<span style="font-family: inherit;"> in German: <span style="background-color: white; color: #222222;">Protektorat Böhmen und Mähren. </span></span>It turns out that information is an extremely valuable source of power. Tragically, matriky records were used during this time by Nazis to discover the genealogy of citizens, and how much percentage of Jewish blood they might have. In Josef Škvorecký's book <a href="http://czechoutyourancestors.blogspot.com/2016/10/the-swell-season-text-on-most-important.html">The Swell Season: a Text on the Most Important Things in Life</a>, there is an account of how Danny Smiricky stays up the entire night helping the local parish priest to recopy an <i>entire</i> matriky book in order to conceal the Jewish heritage of one of the locals. Though this is a fictional story, perhaps Škvorecký is drawing from his own life experiences, which is really something that should give us pause.<br />
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Enter <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovak_Socialist_Republic">communism</a> (1948-1989). It should be noted that the communist regime did not want the Catholic church (or any church) to have power, but they had a strong interest in the matriky, again because information is power. Communists used the matriky to prevent certain families from ever reaching a higher social status, or requiring certain students to leave university.<br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Starting in 1950, new matriky were introduced which were recorded by the matriční úřady (registrar’s office). The matriční uřady were (and are still) a part of the municipal government - obecní úřady (or národní výbor in the past). It was part of the separation of church and state, as well as one of the actions of the communist regime against the churches (and spirituality) in Czechoslovakia (see </span><a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%8CSR" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">these other names</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> for this place - something to discuss another day.)</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The new matriky were kept for secular and not religious purposes. For example, they record births and not baptisms, or death and not burials. It is interesting to notice that the regional archives all describe the old matriky in secular terms as well, using N, O, Z to stand for narození, oddaní, or zemřelí, aka births, marriages, and deaths, as opposed to baptisms, marriages, and burials. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Along with these trends towards secularization came another significant change: weddings held by church officiators were not recognised as legal marriages. Secular wedding ceremonies became compulsory, though couples could hold a private ceremony with no legal consequences by the state government. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The old matriky were transferred to the matriční úřady in January 1952. Pretty soon, government officials seemed to realize that there were far too many old books for which the municipal government had no use, which were just taking up space. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">(By the way, the old books which were transferred to the SOA might include other parish books which are not births, marriages, and deaths! For example, I found a book of church endowments. My ancestors left money as a fund to pay for a mass for their parents every year on a certain date.)</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">What to do with all the old, musty, useless books? The next year the government decided that the old matriky (neživé - those books which were closed/finished before 1870) were transferred to statní oblastní archivy, SOA (regional archives). This is where they are physically located today. As time went on, and more of the olds books became “neživé” (closed), they were deposited in the SOA. However, </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: red; font-style: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">some of the church matriky are still held by the matriční úřady.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The point is that since 1950 the state keeps its own matriky for its own purposes. But meanwhile, the Catholic church (and probably other churches) still continues to keep its own matriky, though they are not official government records. So whoever is born in the Czech republic is entered in the matrika narozených of one of the state offices. After he is baptized, he is recorded in the baptismal matriky of the Catholic church (or some other church). Such Catholic matriky are regulated by canon law and are obligatory for the church, not for Sunday worship, obviously, but to participate in holy rites. All the sacraments - baptism, marriage, last rites/burials etc - are still carefully recorded by the Catholic church though now it is only for their own purposes, while the state records everything separately for its own purposes. If you are going to marry in the Catholic church, you will have to show the same proof of baptism as your ancestors had to +200 years ago.</span></span></div>
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<b style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">There is a special matrika located in Brno which is designated for Czech citizens who were born, married, or died abroad, however the events are only recorded there upon request; the record keepers are not obligated to try to discover all of those events around the world.</span></b><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Keep in mind that most people in the Czech republic today are not baptized or married in the church, and they might not be very interested in discussing the Catholic church, religion, or spirituality for a whole host of complex reasons which are fascinating to me. I think an appropriate analogy would be to liken it to discussing racism in the United States. Sometimes, it can be really hard, uncomfortable, and just plain uninteresting to talk about race issues, though they are obviously a huge part of our country’s history, for which there is a kind of collective guilt. Treading lightly while discussing religion is always a good idea, of course.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The public is entitled to access the old matriky, with some exceptions. If your ancestor was born, married, or died after 1 January 1950, you should search the state matriky. I am not sure what kind of access the public has to newer matriky; there are time limits to which records are open due to privacy laws, and they are not the same for each kind of record. As was noted by several keen observers, the privacy rules today are that b</span></span><span style="font-family: inherit; white-space: pre-wrap;">irth matriky are open to the public after 100 years after the last record within the book was recorded, and marriages and death matriky are open after 75 years. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">I saw in the footnotes of a book about Frenštát that it didn't even make it onto <a href="http://mapy.mzk.cz/en/mzk03/000/903/901/2619267596/">Jan Amos Komenský's 1633 map</a>, no doubt having been destroyed during a siege during the Thirty Year's War. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Well, that author was correct. It's not on the map. </span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">I was curious to find out if that was true, about it being destroyed during the war. And at the same time, I was trying to research something completely different which required me to figure out, "What is the oldest land book in Frenštát?" I found it with some help, but then I was skeptical and decided to search again. And that's when I found </span><span style="color: #1155cc; text-decoration-line: underline; white-space: pre-wrap;">this!</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">This is a history of the town. I guess it's a kind of a chronicle, but not technically a town chronicle. It was really interesting to read some of what the people lived through. Someday, I would really like to find out if these were <i>my</i> people that lived through it. I think so, but to be able to prove it...</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">Anyway, here are some of the first entries, with more to come I am sure. Thanks to <a href="http://kulanuvrodopisnyblog.blogspot.cz/">Lukáš</a> for helping me read them.</span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Incest was a big deal. According to this book about papal dispensations called </span><a href="https://books.google.cz/books?id=CbdJ0YuaOCsC&pg=PA69&lpg=PA69&dq=crimen+incestus&source=bl&ots=gfBMYwne2d&sig=u8yN_Ys_4PCOlRriWjOexXgY_f8&hl=cs&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjXhKSpxtHVAhWLbhQKHUs-BS8Q6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=crimen%20incestus&f=false" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: italic; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Der Ursprung des Rechtsinsitutes der Päpstlichen Dispens von der Nicht Vollyogenen Ehe</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Ideo imponitur poenitentia paulo maior quam pro adulterio; nam si commisisset verum crimen incestus: puta, quia cognovisset consanguineam uxoris, tunc imponeratur gravior poenitentia, et multo maior, quam pro adulterio; quot patet ex illo, quia adulterium non inhabilitat ad matrimonium contrahendum “sed crimen incestus sic.”</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Basically: incest is a lot worse than adultery. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I think it’s kind of strange that 4th degree consanguinity was considered incest, and not just compared to what is allowed today, but back then, too! Other parishes would have allowed 4th degree consanguinity marriages without this problem, I think. Apparently Anna had a child the very next day after this marriage, so she was almost certainly visibly pregnant. Maybe you wouldn’t need church clearance from the crime of incest if you married your first cousin before you had sex with them (or before it was obvious that you had done so). </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">By the way, besides the modern North American cultural aversion towards first cousin marriages, </span><a href="https://www.larasig.com/node/2020" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">it’s probably not actually that genetically risky</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. Good thing, because all my Texas Czechs are related and interrelated in some way or another! Though, I have not yet come across a first cousin Czech marriage, so maybe I’m wrong to assume I have first cousin marriages, too?</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Here are the unanswered questions this record brings up:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">It seems that this couple had to go through a lot of trouble in order to get permission to be married. How likely is it that the baby was actually born the day after their marriage? Is it more likely that they were hiding the baby so that he or she could be baptized legitimately? </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Wouldn’t the couple have had a huge incentive to marry much earlier, before the “crime of incest” became visible through her pregnancy? What delayed the marriage? </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">If you could find the banns for this marriage (which might exist in the archives, but are not online), would you find that the marriage was supposed to have taken place much earlier? Wouldn’t this imply that somebody had protested the banns?</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">If so, why? Were they seeking revenge? Were they a jilted lover? Why would somebody care enough to point out their relationship before the pregnancy became visible?</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Do first cousin marriages between couples engaging in premarital sex always require both a dispensation and a repentance pardon? Is that what this record describes? </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Here is the </span><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/10g6ZViFoi36FxE0DyYnfStJP2rrSo7UeqdQ6zkwJ8P4/edit?usp=sharing" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">unfinished transcription</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> which I started with my friend </span><a href="http://kulanuvrodopisnyblog.blogspot.cz/" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Lukáš</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. Words which were difficult to read were highlighted in yellow. Feel free to work on it, if you would like! Maybe eventually we can have an exact translation. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">1762 die 5e Mense Septembri contraxit matrimonium per verba de presenti </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Patio sseryad ex pago Neplachow, Jacobo Maschek ex pago Mayelow,</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">in quartio equali consaguimtatis gradu ab ordinario :/</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">pauperum et. demmodo mulier propter </span><span style="background-color: yellow; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">noc rapta </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">non fuerit,</span></span></div>
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Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-38412605201357301872017-07-26T21:27:00.001-05:002017-07-26T21:38:29.762-05:00What I wish I knew about Czech HistoryA little over a year ago I returned from my first trip to the Czech Republic. It was a life changing experience. The main thing that changed for me was starting to understand just how little I actually know.<br />
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A tiny bit more than nothing.<br />
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It was actually a very overwhelming, humbling, humiliating feeling. I thought I knew <i>something</i>, but it was like I took a tiny peek into the world's biggest library (a library full of books that I mostly can't even read yet) and, well...of course that hurt my pride quite deeply.<br />
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By the way, I am imagining a library like this:<br />
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<i>The Klementinium Library, <a href="http://www.boredpanda.com/beautiful-library-prague-czech-clementinum/">the most beautiful library in the world</a>, is in Prague.</i><br />
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But in reality, a Czechophilic's dream library exists 1.5 hours away from me in the National Czech & Slovak Museum & Library in Cedar Rapids Iowa. See?<br />
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I can't bear the thought of staying outside of that library. I am willing to do whatever it takes, including submitting myself to feelings of humiliation, frustration, and all kinds of other deeply painful feelings, for the chance to learn about this part of the world, and this part of my own history. So for the past year I have been trying to learn everything I can about everything having to do with Czech history, Czech culture, Czech literature, and then, Czech itself.<br />
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Why it's so hard:<br />
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1. I don't even know what I don't know.<br />
2. I don't know how to acquire the knowledge I lack.<br />
3. Physical limitations of reality.<br />
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These conditions are all stumbling blocks to my learning. I feel like a year later, after this mind blowing experience which caused me to suddenly become an obsessive hyper-focused neurotic maniac, I still know only a tiny bit more than nothing.<br />
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"Look how much more you know now!"<br />
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Yeah. Well. It's still very disheartening to know with clarity how little I know and how unqualified I am. How stupid I feel. It is so frustrating.<br />
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Where does one go to find extra reserves of patience with one's self? I don't know.<br />
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What I do know, or at least hope, is that there exist other people who are frustrated with this learning curve, just like me. Part of the problem is that for some reason, my brain can't really wrap itself around macrohistory. I fall asleep. It's not until I start reading about feelings, people, specific conversations, events - these bring history alive. It's so much more interesting to be able to imagine the world in which these people lived in <i>specific </i>terms, rather than an outline of bullet points.<br />
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I think it would be a gross error for us to avoid alluding to the menacing nature of the Habsburg dynasty. If we just say, "Hey, these guys were on the throne for 400 years," it's not going to convey this, "Hey, a foreign monarchy from one giant family ruled the Czech lands for 400 years and it took a world war to depose them." The very nature of writing history means casting judgment. If we don't do it clearly, the poor reader (me!) is not going to get it.<br />
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There has to be another way to approach European History than to say, "Here's all the dry facts with no analysis about what they mean. Memorize them all, and until you do, you know nothing."<br />
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I tried to read a couple of books about Czech history that were essays translated from Czech, and they were really difficult to get through. The only one that I remember was extremely disturbing because it was a case study about a child rape in the 1500's, and the largest section of the essay was actually a translation of a transcription of the actual case - pages and pages. To be honest, that story, as horrible as it was, helped show me this past world better than any Wikipedia page about the Austrian Empire or Ferdinand I ever did. But I don't want to write about it because it was too sad.<br />
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I'm reading <i><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Coasts-Bohemia-Czech-History/dp/069105052X">The Coasts of Bohemia</a> </i>and Sayer does a much better job of getting his point across...when he's not being super-duper-ultra witty. Sometimes I have to read his sentences 3 times before I can understand what he's trying to say. He uses really difficult vocabulary and really long sentences and presupposes that you already know a lot of things. Fortunately, I'm the exact target reader, and if it weren't for Stumbling Block Number Three, I would have already devoured this book.<br />
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I read <i><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Wall-Growing-Behind-Curtain-Caldecott/dp/0374347018">The Wall: Growing Up Behind the Iron Curtain</a> </i>to my kids. This is an excellent book, by the way.<br />
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Why can't there be a book like this - a straightforward, easy to read, illustrated children's book - about the Thirty Year's War? Franz Josef II? Maria Teresa? The counter-reformation? I wasn't taught about any of these people or events in school, <i>and one whole year of my high school education was in Europe! </i><br />
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But why would France feel the need to teach me about Czechoslovakia?<br />
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Which brings me to the most significant stumbling block of all:<br />
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4. Ethnocentrism, i.e. the history (etc.) of a small European country is not considered important by the rest of the world.<br />
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Why do historians somehow feel like they have to prove themselves by being the most dry and boring creatures on earth - myself included! There's this constant feeling of needing to prove your legitimacy when you are writing macrohistory. It's so frustrating. When applied to microhistory, it makes perfect sense.<br />
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But our ancestors lived in the foreign country of the past, and if we don't understand that world, we really can't understand them. We won't even be able to find the important records of their lives if we don't understand what was going on in the broader world around them - politically, socially, religiously, every other -ly you can imagine. We need to understand them all.<br />
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I don't want to become guilty of writing fiction about my ancestors, even if the only book that ever gets written is the one in my head. I want to understand what <i>really happened</i>.<br />
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What I wish I knew about Czech History? What I would learn if I had spent my childhood growing up there: the thoughts and opinions of the previous generation(s). The political opinions of the people around me, which pull and tug at my own opinions. The simplified stories about the past told to me by my parents, showing me what to think. The stories of forgotten heroes like Gabčík and Kubiš of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Anthropoid">Operation Anthropoid</a>, whose names I had never heard until two weeks ago, but whom <i>every</i> Czech remembers.<br />
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I feel really doubtful about being able to learn what I deeply desire to know on my own. Maybe this means pursuing an academic path towards gaining knowledge. Or maybe the path lies somewhere else. I'm going to keep looking for it.<br />
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<br />Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com4tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-16245364857477160022017-06-22T09:35:00.001-05:002017-06-22T09:35:22.696-05:00Estcha Máme Plenty!<div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt; text-align: center;">
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My great-great-grandpa Josef Jan Vasicek immigrated to Texas when he was 16 years old.<br />
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He was the youngest son of the Vasicek's.<br />
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And he never saw his parents again after he left. I think that that was very sad.<br />
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Because he was an early immigrant, and he was also an entrepreneur, he hired other Czechs. Some stories have still remained about how he took advantage of them, and about how they were clueless, ignorant immigrants.<br />
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Grandpa Joe said, "Put some water in the car."<br />
So...they poured water on the seats, and not in the radiator.<br />
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Grandpa Joe said, "Plant them a hoe's length apart."<br />
So they did. The entire length of the hoe. Not the length of its head.<br />
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When they all sat down to dinner together, Grandpa Joe's wife (grandma Agnes Stefek from Trojanovice 281) said, "Jezte, máme plenty!"<br />
But they didn't eat anything, just waited, watched, waited, and watched. It seems they were waiting for the mysterious "plenty" to appear.<br />
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These stories remain in our family culture. But what interests (and also deeply saddens) me, is to see with my own eyes the demise of the Czech language. Honestly, what I always heard were the words:<br />
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"Estcha máma plenty." It was through writing this piece that I understood that it wasn't ever "estcha" or "ještě" but "jezte", 2nd person plural imperative for "eat!"<br />
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The Czech language is not going to prevent me from the understanding of my Czech ancestors which I crave. I would sacrifice almost anything in order to speak it.<br />
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I often feel as if my personality is just a pile of awkwardness. But truly, I would give up all of my pride for this dream, including all my personal failures, include my awkwardness. I hope that one day I will meet others with the same dream: to really understand our Czechs.<br />
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<span style="color: black; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Přistěhoval se můj prapradědeček Josef Jan Vašíček do Texasu, když bylo mu 16 let.</span></div>
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<span style="color: black; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">On byl nejmladší syn Vašíčkových.</span></div>
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<span style="color: black; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">A nikdy neviděl své rodiče, poté co odešel. Myslím si, že je to velmi smutné. </span></div>
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<span style="color: black; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Protože byl časný přistěhovalec, a také byl podnikatel, proto často najal další Čechy. Trvají nějaké příběhy, jak on využil něj, a jaké byli hloupé a naivní přistěhovalci.</span></div>
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<span style="color: black; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Děda Joe řekl: “Dejte vodu do auta.” </span></div>
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<span style="color: black; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Takže…oni ji nalili na sedadla auta, a ne do chladiče. </span></div>
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<span style="color: black; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Děda Joe řekl: “Zasaďte to na délku motyky od sebe.” </span></div>
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<i style="font-family: inherit; white-space: pre-wrap;">[Already you can see the influence of English in my grandfather’s mind: a Czech would understand this to mean the length of the hoe’s stick, not its head. But in English it is ambiguous, and from the context you can tell it meant the head.]</i></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; white-space: pre-wrap;">Takže oni se zasadili celém délku motyky. </span></div>
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<span style="color: black; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Když spolu večeřeli, žena Dědy Joa (babička Anežka Štefková z Trojanovic 281) řekla, “Jezte, máme plenty!” </span></div>
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<span style="color: black; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Ale nic nejedli, jen čekali, a koukali, čekali, a koukali. Zdá se, že čekali, až přijde ten tajemný “plenty.”</span></div>
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<span style="color: black; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Ty příběhy trvají u našem rodinné kultuře. Ale co mě zajímá (a také mě mrzí), je vidět na vlastní oči rozklad českého jazyka. Upřímně, co jsem vždycky slyšela, byla slova “estcha máma plenty.” Skrze toto psaní jsem pochopila, že to není žádné “estcha” ani “ještě”; to muselo být “jezte.”</span></div>
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<span style="color: black; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Čeština nebude mi bránit za porozumění českým předkům, po kterém toužím. Obětovala bych téměř cokoliv, abych to uměla.</span></div>
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<span style="color: black; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Často cítím se, jako kdyby moje osobnost byla jenom hromada trapnosti. Ale opravdu, obětovala všechnu svou pýchu pro ten sen, a to zahrnuje každé osobní selhání, i moji trapnost. Doufám, že jednoho dne se setkám s dalšími lidmi, kteří mají stejný sen: pochopit naše Čechy.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">My fourth cousin in Trojanovice sent me a copy of a history of the town of Frenštát from 1904. I started to read it in Czech, and of course I need to share what I am learning, because it is very interesting. Here is a translation of pages 7 and 8.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, serif;">Here [in Frenštát] the numbering was done starting from the church. There were 37 houses of Měsťans (Burgers) and of them, 22 formed the core of the square, 15 others were located on the streets which were at the extensions of the square’s longer sides. The current numbering was done at the beginning of the 19th century.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">See </span><a href="http://www.mza.cz/indikacniskici/index.php#show:MOR055418330" style="text-decoration-line: none;"><span style="color: #1155cc; text-decoration-line: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">this map</span></a><span style="vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> but remember it is from 1835, so it is not exactly the same as what this chronicle is talking about.</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, serif;">In the 1676 document “Extract of a copy of the Hukvaldy official blah blah blah Cadastral blah blah thing from 1676” the names of the current šenk houses (brewery houses) were stated in this order: </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, serif;">Jakub Lichnovský (now at č. 15)</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: white; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, serif;">Lida widow of Michal Kopřiva</span></span></div>
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Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-63780705504435335872017-06-11T15:43:00.001-05:002017-06-11T15:43:21.790-05:00How to trace Czechs before House Numbers<div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;">
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Here’s my 7th great aunt Marina Šperka’s birth in Staříč on </span><a href="http://vademecum.archives.cz/vademecum/permalink?xid=be86aac6-f13c-102f-8255-0050568c0263&scan=17" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">17 January 1716</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I noticed that </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">only</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> on Marina’s birth was there anybody mentioned from outside the parish. It was a witness listed as “Anna Vojtěchová ex Místecensi Parochia.” </span></span></div>
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Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-89082944865295366192017-06-08T09:02:00.005-05:002017-06-08T09:02:54.871-05:00Želary, část druhá [part two]Část první [part one] is located <a href="http://czechoutyourancestors.blogspot.com/2017/05/zelary.html">here</a>.<br />
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My cousin (4th cousin once removed) Josef Petr in Trojanovice - who is just as much into genealogy as I am - gave me some really great answers to some questions, which I am sharing (with permission). </div>
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<span style="font-family: "helvetica neue" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;"><span style="background-color: transparent;"><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;">From the memories of my grandfather I can confirm that Soviet soldiers were stealing watches or mirrors, bicycles and even the horses or tractors where available. My grandfather telling me that they've confiscated alarm clock to somebody. Later, when the alarm ringing, the soldier shoot into the rucksack with it, </span></span><span style="background-color: transparent; white-space: pre-wrap;">because he has no idea something like this existing. Also, who had water supply</span><span style="background-color: transparent; white-space: pre-wrap;"> in his house, he was visited by soldiers who want to see that miracle. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: "helvetica neue" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;"><b><span style="background-color: transparent; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><i>Life there seemed like a lot of backbreaking physical work. In the most beautiful place imaginable, though. How would my Czechs have felt to leave this place? They would have had complex feelings of longing to both return to their mountain and stay in Texas. How can I learn more about this? </i></span><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;"><br /></span></b></span></div>
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<span style="white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: "helvetica neue" , "arial" , "helvetica" , sans-serif;">I would say that for you could be some place nice, almost paradise, for other person could be boring and another person could be hell. My experience from <span class="il">Trojanovice</span> is, that if somebody came for a while, he is so excited, he likes everything, but next day it is already known and next day some things can be annoying. So nice to have a snow, real WHITE snow on your garden. Yes, but that snow I have to remove from the causeway, I'm having troubles with transportation, etc. Or garden itself, so many people told me they would plant a potatoes, or tomatoes, but when realize how much work it means, they're disappointed. Of course they rather go to Tesco and buy potatoes for funny price instead of planting them and take care about them. So I think it is similar with the people who were leaving to Texas from here. You can say - nice hills, but when you have to everyday go with your cows to that hill, it is not so cool. Their houses were so adorable, but it was cold at winter, hot at summer. There are always several points of view, and for them the situation was so crappy, so they believed anywhere else it will be better. </span></span></div>
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Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-33879060773859045672017-06-05T22:40:00.001-05:002017-06-05T22:40:07.539-05:00I am a GeneaBloggersTRIBE team member!Guess what?<br />
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<a href="http://www.geneabloggers.com/geneabloggers-com-end-almost-near/">GeneaBloggers</a> was about to die. Thomas MacEntee was moving on to his new site: <a href="http://abundantgenealogy.com./">AbundantGenealogy.com</a>. He basically realized that the vast majority of the traffic to his site comes from Facebook instead of blogs, and it wasn't really worth all his gargantuan effort to continue with it. This post explains the pros and cons of publishing your genealogy content on <a href="http://www.lonetester.com/2017/05/facebook-vs-blogging-the-pros-and-cons/">Facebook vs. Blogger</a>, which is really interesting to me.<br />
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Actually, the very vast majority of hits on my blog come from Facebook. I can immediately tell my looking at my stats whether or not I remembered to cross-post something there; if I did, it will have 100+ views. If I didn't, maybe 25. And then a post somehow hits the SEO jackpot and gets a thousand hits, making me feel really happy, and inflating my ego really huge.<br />
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But truly, I don't blog for the stats. I blog for myself. Rather, I blog for that person who, like myself, was really longing to find some knowledge about Czech genealogy research, and couldn't. I blog the bits and pieces of knowledge I learn on the way so that others might be spared a tiny bit of the learning curve.<br />
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But then a group of us genealogy bloggers came together and resurrected it as <a href="http://www.geneabloggers.com/announcing-new-initiative-geneabloggerstribe-com/">GeneaBloggersTRIBE</a> (for now). Every day that goes by, my admiration and respect for Thomas MacEntee's brain deepens. This guy was a genius. Also a workaholic and glutton for punishment, because A. Ton. Of. Work. went into the website. I never knew that before, because I only ever used it for the daily blogging prompts.<br />
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To be honest, that is the same reason why I became a <a href="http://geneabloggerstribe.com/kate-vasicek-challis/">team member</a>: because I care about the daily blogging prompts a lot.<br />
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Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-24740823117596264522017-05-28T23:26:00.000-05:002017-05-28T23:26:13.179-05:00How should I record the given names of my Czech ancestors?<div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;">
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Let’s pretend that the socio-political problems in Texas were so terrible that they drove my parents to emigrate with me and my brother and sisters to Estonia. In order to assimilate into the community, we all assumed Estonian names. My name on the official documents became "Katariina Zabel". But maybe friends called me Kadri. My parents might still have called me Kate at home, where we probably would continue to speak English for at least one or two more generations. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">200 years later, my descendants find me listed on many different official government records: my birth record in Mexican-occupied Texas where I am listed as "Catalina Ysabel", and all my other government records in Estonia, like my driver’s license, my diploma, my interstellar-space passport, etc. On these other documents, I am “Katariina Zabel.” Which name do you think does a more accurate job representing my </span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-style: italic; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">identity, </span><span style="font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">the one on my birth record (when, because of my infancy, I was not even consciously aware of being present), or the one which I was actually might have signed myself? Maybe I didn’t use it commonly among friends and family, but if my own hand wrote my name, don’t you think </span><span style="font-family: inherit; font-style: italic; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">that</span><span style="font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> name is a more appropriate choice to use as an identifier for me?</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Let’s pretend that 200 years later, Russian has become the dominant world language. Certainly, we can all agree that it would be categorically wrong for my descendants to record my name in Russian, as “Jekaterina Elizaveta.” </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">This final piece of the analogy would be like me, an English speaker, angliflying my 6th cousins’ names - people who emigrated from Czech-speaking Trojanovice to Portuguese-speaking Brazil. It would be wrong to do that. More to come about those guys in the next few months, by the way!</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">The question then becomes: </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-size: large;">how do you know what language your Czechs spoke, so you can know which language to record their name in your database?</span></span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;"> </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Though you may not be able to ask your great x grandparents directly, you can start to find clues about the language they used by learning about the history of the region. Did your ancestors live in the Sudetenland? Was German a language which people spoke in that time and place? There are maps of German speaking regions, for example:</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Wikipedia : </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudeten_Germans" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudeten_Germans</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Other hints might be to look at the language used in the matriky and land records over time. Did it consistently stay in German? Did it revert back to Czech in the 19th/early 20th century? </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Here is a great example of signatures </span><a href="http://vademecum.archives.cz/vademecum/permalink?xid=be85f93c-f13c-102f-8255-0050568c0263&scan=6" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">from a late 19th century Frenštát marriage register.</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> Notice that some of them also wrote their occupations, for example, the top signature of Frant Reček “suset Tkadlec” aka “soused tkadlec” or “citizen weaver.” Note that he even wrote his occupation in Czech. He did not write “Bürger Weber.”</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><a href="http://vademecum.archives.cz/vademecum/permalink?xid=be85f93c-f13c-102f-8255-0050568c0263&scan=7" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">A few pages later in the same marriage register</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, notice that there are three little x’s next to Martin Bartoš’s name. This represents his mark, meaning it was not his signature. Probably he was illiterate and could not write his name. But notice again that his occupation was written here in Czech as “tkádleč suset” aka “soused tkadlec”. He probably spoke Czech.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">If he spoke Czech, then I think there is a strong and compelling argument that </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">yes, we should record our Czechs in Czech, because it captures their identity better. </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">The onus is on </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><i>us</i></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> to find clues about which language they used and to document our conclusions.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I currently only use </span><a href="https://familysearch.org/" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">FamilySearch</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> as my lineage linked database - and yes, I know that I need to have a static, closed system to record just my research - but frankly I haven’t gotten around to it yet. That is one of my genealogy goals for this year. </span></span></div>
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Parish registers and/or land records from the early 16th century for </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">this place</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> were written in Czech (for example, </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><b>here are some links</b>)</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. Later 19th century records for </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">this place</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> were also written in Czech (for example, </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><b>here are some links</b>)</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">. Based on </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">this person’s</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> geographic location, </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">this person’s</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> descendants’ native language, and the linguistic reversion in the records from Czech to German to Czech, I believe </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">this person</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> was a Czech-speaker. Therefore, I believe a Czech name better represents </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">this person’s</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> identity. The standardized and official spelling for this Czech name today is </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">such-and-such</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, therefore that is how I have chosen to identify </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 700; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">this person</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> in my records. Please note that all alternative spellings are listed under ‘other information’.”</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Yes, I did just write this reason statement out so that I can copy and paste it into familysearch when I enter my Czechs by their names. I will probably start crafting reason statements tailored for each village and family. I know this is perhaps being a little bit over-the-top, but I think it's really important to explain this name change logically, especially when no record preserved from their life records their given name in Czech.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">What do </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">you</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> think about how to handle Czech identity? How do you name your Czechs in your own records? Why do you do it that way? </span></span></div>
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Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-28635019342996218982017-05-26T05:55:00.003-05:002017-05-26T05:55:36.420-05:00Getting Better at Czech<div style="background-color: white; color: #1d2129; margin-bottom: 6px;">
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<span style="font-family: inherit;">I sometimes think my brain will explode. But this weekend I proved to Lukáš the usefulness of my Czech study by doing a little comparison of my transcription ability in 2013 and now. Here it is:</span></div>
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Transcription attempt 11/10/2013:</div>
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leta pane 1790, dne 15th Marcza povolenim<br />Arvzeneho, a Misocze vzneseneho Pane Ondřeje Zelinky<br />den čast Vrchniho vysoce knížečy arži biskupskeho<br />panství hochvaldskiho. Za fořta Karla Hilssera<br />au žadnich Jozeffa Horečky, Jozeffa Kuřza,<br />a Jana Mužniho, a čeleho au žadu Pasek Trojanowič.<br />Popaussžy Jann Shablatura Sciencvy Karlocoj<br />Shablaturedecj paseku pvan jmenem Skypalky,<br />kter aussto roku 1727. dne 17. dětod : Otec Jakob Shablatura<br />od Sedeho Předka Wačlacva Murasa před<br />lety u kau pil, a Scidwj Janovy niny Otcovy Karla<br />Shablatury zanechal za sumu....72 fhř</div>
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Exact transcription attempt 5/21/2017:</div>
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Karel Ssablatura<br />Leta Panie 1790, dnie “ 15ho Marcza spowolenim<br />Arzemeho, a Misocze wznesseneho Pana Ondřeje Zelin”<br />ký, ten žast Vrchniho visocze knižeczý Arczi biskup”<br />skeho panstwý hochwaldsiho. Za fojta Karla hil”<br />“ssera, auržadnich Jozeffa Horeczký, Jozeffa Kuřzcza,<br />a Jana Mužniho, a czeleho auržadu Pasek Trojanowicz.<br />Popausscžý Jann Schablatura Sinowj Swemu Karlo”<br />wj Ssablatruowj Paseku swau jmenem Skýpalký<br />Kteraussto Roku 1727. den 17 Octod: Otecz Jakob Schab”<br />latura od sweho pržka Wacžlawa Muraja přzed<br />letj ukaupil, a sinowj Janowj ninj Otczowj Karla<br />Schablaturý zanečhal za sumu...72 fř</div>
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Czech attempt 5/21/2017:</div>
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Karel Šablatura<br />Léta Pane 1790, dně “ 15ho Marca s povolením<br />uřozemého, a Misoče vznešeného Pana Ondřeje Zelinký,<br />ten čast vrchního visoče knižecý archibiskupského<br />panství Hochvaldského [Hukvaldského]. Za fojta Karla Hilšera,<br />uředních Jozeffa Horečký, Jozefa Kuřza,<br />a Jana Mužniho, a celého uřaduů Pasek Trojanowic.<br />Popauščý Jan Šablatura synovi svému Karlovi<br />Šablaturovi paseku svou jménem skýpalký<br />kteroužto roku 1727. den 17. Oct od: Otec Jakub Šab”<br />“latura od svého předku Václava Murása před<br />letyi ukoupil, a synovi Janovi nini otcovi Karla<br />Šablatury zanechal za sumu...72 fr</div>
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There are still mistakes in my Czech, but most of them are with diacritical marks and i vs y. This can actually be confusing for native Czech speakers.</div>
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The point is: my efforts to learn Czech are helping me *in a very concrete, measurable way* to be able to transcribe my precious land records.</div>
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Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-13059035689339051232017-05-23T09:09:00.000-05:002017-05-23T09:09:15.291-05:00Johann Černoch and his two wives named Petrová<div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;">
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<li>Anton Černoch married Filomena Kobersky.</li>
<li>Filomena Kobersky is the daughter of Anton Koberský and Marianna Vašíčková. Notice that I decided to put diacritical marks on their names, since they were born in Moravia.</li>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;">Actually, to be honest, I am really not sure how I want to record Czech names in my database. There are good, logical arguments going many different ways, and this debate all centers on the question, “What makes up one’s identity?” But that is a post for a different day.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Here is </span><a href="https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYBJ-BH6" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">the death record</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> my brother found:</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">But </span><a href="https://familysearch.org/tree/person/KXMC-C76/details" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">according to familysearch</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">, his mother was Barbara Petrová.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">We very quickly found out that, indeed, his mother was Barbara Petrová. He was born </span><a href="http://vademecum.archives.cz/vademecum/permalink?xid=be862f06-f13c-102f-8255-0050568c0263&scan=121" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">17 June 1866</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> in Tichá 1833.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;">Actually, notice that Josef was the illegitimate daughter of Barbara Petrová, but later in 1870 he was legitimized. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;">Zde co otec uvedený Jan Černock úctivě žádal, aby Jozef syn Barbory Petrové, s níž dle Kop. matriky Tom. pag. dne</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">jejž s dotýčnou matkou pro</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: yellow; font-style: italic; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">onatkom manželským splodie, a jejž teto za visé dítě njnává co jeho vyznačen a tak letgitimován byl u přítomnosti spolupodopsaných svědku Jak se stalo v Tiché dne 17 ledna 1870 pobdržálek svědek Jan Tiček Jakubík předek</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">My guess is that he was legitimized because the family was already planning on emigrating, and they needed his birth record in order to apply for his passport. But wow, that would be really far in advance; according to the 1900 census, the father immigrated in 1873. The parents Jan Černoch and Barbora Petrová were married on </span><a href="http://vademecum.archives.cz/vademecum/permalink?xid=be8632a8-f13c-102f-8255-0050568c0263&scan=5" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">12 November 1867</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> in Tichá. Why wait 3 years after the marriage to officially legitimize him? </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;">So, it’s really weird that Josef Černoch is listed on the death record as being the son of “Mary Roznousky.” Until you realize that Jan Černoch married again to someone named Marianna. According to unsourced data in Familysearch, the marriage took place in Texas.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;">Well, there was no Catholic church in the Dubina area until 1885. I have a transcription of those “early” records (hey, it’s early for Texas - quit laughing, my Czech friends!)</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">But then who is this step-daughter? He and his first wife had a daughter born </span><a href="http://vademecum.archives.cz/vademecum/permalink?xid=be862f74-f13c-102f-8255-0050568c0263&scan=11" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">18 August 1868</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> named Marianna. Why would she be marked as a “step-daughter” with the surname Peter? Hmm.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;">Well...our current thinking is that Johann Černoch’s second wife was also named Petrová, and that she also had an illegitimate child Marianna born in Tichá the same year as Johann Černoch and Barbora Petrová’s Marianna, who probably died young. We think this because Johann Peter is definitely not Barbora Petrová’s father, but he is Marianna’s father. Maybe they were cousins.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; font-size: large;"><br /><span style="vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">As usual, for every question answered, ten more are asked….</span></span>Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-75375323029197272832017-05-21T22:19:00.002-05:002017-05-21T22:19:22.603-05:00Želary<div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;">
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Would I recommend this film? Yes, but with a big warning: it is really graphic and violent. I am sure that the language itself mirrors this, but fortunately I’m still a really long way off from understanding cursing and foul/disturbing language in Czech. I looked away during the really graphic parts, or rather, I tried to. I don’t need those images scarring my nightmares. But some of the very graphic parts came without very much warning, for example, the priest getting shot by a machine gun took me completely by surprise, and was very disturbing to me.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The basic plot of this movie is that there is a young woman who works as a spy during World War II, and her identity is compromised so she has to go into hiding. It’s arranged for her to go with Joza Janda into a tiny mountain hamlet in the Beskydies where she can disappear. Oh yeah, surprise surprise, in order to be accepted into the community, which hasn’t changed much for the past 100 years, she has to marry him - a complete stranger.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">She goes, she marries him, she suffers from depression, she learns to appreciate the place and Joza himself. Meanwhile, she interacts with other characters who have problems in this tiny place. Lipko (I think that was his name?) is the bastard son of a woman who married a drunk sprosťiak. He is physically and emotionally abused by his father and also by the schoolmaster in the neighboring village in the valley where the kids go to school. He basically becomes a beggar who hides out on his own in an abandoned ruin across a river with some kind of dangerous quicksand. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Another character is a spunky little ~8 year old orphan girl with a goat who doesn’t have any fear of adults. Other notable women include the girl who may or may not be a whore who gets raped, the wife of the jerk who constantly beats her who has some kind of problem (it was unclear to me if it was related to childbirth or physical abuse) and then dies, the woman who had a baby who died and who nursed Lipko, who she then called her “milk baby.” There were some other interesting characters, like the Priest who feels really conflicted about saving Eliška/Hanulka’s life by lying about her identity - through performing the holy sacrament of marriage, no less. He probably feels really relieved when he sees how they actually have grown to love each other, and that their marriage is not a sham. There is also the schoolteacher who feels really ashamed at his hatred to Lipko, and tries (somewhat halfheartedly) to confess to the Priest.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">My friend Petra’s tongue-in-cheek observation is that anorexic actresses are great choices for war films, since everybody was starving.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I thought it was really, really interesting that they used, “Emigroval!” (he emigrated) for a euphemism for, “He died.” (or rather, he was murdered by the Gestapo). Was emigrating really perceived with such a...I don’t know...with so much terror? I suppose emigration would be pretty similar to if a relative actually </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">did</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> die, especially in the earlier years of Czech-American emigration (starting in the ~1850’s, at least from Moravia). But in the 1940’s? Really?</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I could really relate to Eliška as she was transported “back in time” to this place. She experienced major culture shock, especially when she discovered that there was no electricity in their home. By the way, the home was just some random abandoned home which Joza fixed up. They referenced abandoned houses. I have heard about Czechs abandoning their homes (after they emigrated, because they could not pay the mortgage, etc.) I have also seen first hand that the registration of abandoned homes in the land records. It was really interesting to me to visualize what that might have looked like.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">And of course, to visualize the home itself. It was actually bigger than the Trojanovice home in the open-air museum which we visited. But it was also very similar, and the stove was straight from a Josef Lada illustration. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">All in all, I really loved this film. Oh yeah, I should mention that I only watched the first half with English subtitles. For some reason, the only subtitles I could find were split into two files, and I couldn’t find an easy way to append the files together. So I just watched the second half of the film in Czech, and I think I understood most of it, at least the gist of it, anyway.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I think at one point the Gestapo thinks they have caught Eliška’s trail, but then they can’t find her because she blends in so well, so...they decide to shoot the witness point blank in front of everybody? What!?</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">What I didn’t understand very well was basically anything involving the Russian soldiers (I think they were Russian...they seemed to say, “Na zdrovya” instead of, “Na zdráví!” when they were drinking. But I think this is because I don’t really know very much about this part of history, and it’s true, it’s like a black hole in my knowledge, learning about Russian relations with the Czech world. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br class="kix-line-break" /></span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Here’s what I think happened: the Russian soldiers come to the village. Everyone is excited and serves them. I don’t really know why. They get insanely drunk and crazy. They start shooting their guns. Everybody goes home. One of the Russian soldiers decides to rape one of the villagers. He is shot by another villager (and she - with her brand new baby! - is rescued by Lipka), and the Russians go crazy shooting everybody? Um...what? Why? The villagers all run and hide, and try to treat their wounded. Joza is shot in the process of trying to save the guy who originally killed the first Russian, and he loses so much blood that he dies. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The other thing I didn’t really understand was the very, very ending. But then I talked about it with Petra, and I think I get it. We never really know what happened to Eliška, but the ending is 20 or so years later, after she has obviously gone back into the “real world” again. She’s wearing 1960’s clothes. She goes back to Želary, meets one of the old women who remembers her when she was Joza’s wife, she’s totally shocked that she’s still alive, and then they both start laughing like crazy people. But...why? Petra says it’s just black Czech humor, to laugh when you should be crying. I guess I do understand that; I just wasn’t sure if I had missed something.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I think you could watch the film and see just the story (which by the way, is apparently based on a true story!?) You could also watch it and see some interesting symbolism. Something about how the poor, small, miserable, weak, and oppressed can still accomplish really great feats of heroism and courage, and how this symbolizes the Czech/Moravian spirit. Maybe some other symbolism in how the Catholic church, which was the cornerstone of morality and stability in society, was completely obliterated by communism, just like how he was shot to death suddenly by a machine gun, for no logical reason whatsoever. There were also some serious themes of forgiveness, when Joza, the biggest hero of the whole story (and a little bit of a </span><a href="http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MartyStu" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Gary Stu</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> trope) goes back and saves the life of the jerk whose arm he broke (and rightfully so; he was trying to rape his wife! Actually, I don’t know...maybe he succeeded...I didn’t see...I guess he probably did not). </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Here are the questions I have now that I have seen this film:</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Just how out-of-the-way of World War II were my ancestral mountain villages? </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I know my ancestors drank. I know that my great great grandfather Bedrich Michna died of something related to alcoholism (another really excellent reason for me not to drink). How did alcoholism and excessive drinking affect my ancestors’ daily lives?</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Rape. There was a lot of it in this movie. How common was it, and how were victims perceived/treated? </span></span></div>
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<li dir="ltr" style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; list-style-type: disc; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline;"><div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;">
<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">They did not spend a lot of time showing how Eliška would not be accepted into Želary. It was briefly alluded to, and then she was *poof* immediately besties with the other women. I wonder how small village life and its gossiping and nosiness would have actually been like for a woman in this situation. Would she have made friends easily?</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">The orphans were just kind of free to wander wherever they wanted. The one little girl seemed pretty pleased to do it, and her pastoral happiness seemed to be over glorified. It would have sucked to have been in her position. I guess that is what makes her such an obvious choice for a symbol if the Czech spirit of resilience in the face of huge obstacles. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I liked how the movie portrayed the Priest as “the good guy.” Too often, Priests are vilified. What would a priest back then have really been like?</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Life there seemed like a lot of backbreaking physical work. In the most beautiful place imaginable, though. How would my Czechs have felt to leave this place? They would have had complex feelings of longing to both return to their mountain and stay in Texas. <b>How can I learn more about this?</b> </span></span></div>
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<br />Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-38769240130930747552017-05-03T22:02:00.002-05:002017-05-03T22:08:51.939-05:00Czech archives catalogs are hard for me to search!Why is it so difficult for me to search the various Czech Archives' catalogs?<br />
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My husband and I are planning our itinerary for our second trip to the Czech Republic this fall, and of course it largely revolves around the archives and when they are open. Now that I realize what a small percentage of records for my Czechs are digitized and online, I really crave going to the archives and gathering the other valuable records which exist so that I can transcribe them and actually flesh out my ancestors' stories.<br />
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I spoke for a long time about this with my friend Petr today. He feels like you can't really know a person if all you have are the dusty archive records, but I have strong feelings about the value in <i>trying</i> to know them, even if he is right, that you can't really completely know them. Of course, if you find a diary or a stack of letters, you come a lot closer to knowing a person than if all you have are legal disputes and vital records, but my experience is that the more I learn about my ancestors, including the important dates and events in their lives, the closer I feel to them, and the better I know them. The act of <i>getting to know</i> them is extremely valuable to me, even though it will never be "done."<br />
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And anyway, can you ever really "know" somebody else, living or dead?<br />
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Back to the comparatively easier side of this problem, how to <i>find</i> the records themselves?<br />
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After our first trip to the Czech Republic, and my experience of being completely shocked at experiencing first hand how much exists in the archives that does not exist online, I am so excited to have another chance to gather some more important records myself. But <i>what</i> should I look for? How can I know <i>what</i> exists? How can I prioritize my search?<br />
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Obviously, I will have to have all of this planned before we go. Not only do we have to request that the records be pulled in advance, but also the trip itself is not the time to be spent in front of a computer screen! What precious few hours we have exploring my ancestral homeland, I want to really savor and experience <i>live</i>. I want to spend time with my Czech friends and live in the present, not in my head, which is basically where I am when in front of a computer screen.<br />
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I feel really frustrated because I feel like it should be easier to figure out which records I want to pull. Maybe it's from being utterly spoiled by how the Family History Library in Salt Lake is so organized and centralized with so many billions of records in one single place, organized by one system. Maybe I'm whining about the learning curve. This is exactly why I have focused so much of my recent efforts on learning Czech, though!<br />
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Basically, when I think about our trip, I daydream about sitting next to my friend Lukáš in front of his computer and having him walk me through how to use the ZA Opava catalog effectively. I guess that throws the whole living-in-the-present-and-avoiding-living-in-my-head idea...haha.<br />
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Here are the reasons why I find it difficult to use various Czech archival catalogs to find non-matriky records:<br />
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<b>1. Lost in translation</b><br />
Since I have been learning Czech, I have discovered that my ability to use various Czech archives' sites has dramatically improved. I have a lot to learn, but I've discovered that literally every Czech archival site is easier to navigate in Czech than it is in the abridged English version, with the only exception being perhaps SOA Třebon. Something is often lost in translation when I get a list of search results, though. Important records do not stand out, whether they are translated by the browser or by the site itself, or remain untranslated. It is very difficult to tell what it is I'm looking at. I have a hard time judging at a glance if something is interesting or not.<br />
Possible solution: learn Czech.<br />
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<b>2. Many archives = many learning curves</b><br />
Navigating the catalog for ZA Opava is entirely different from MZA Brno. SOA Prague is totally different from either of these. In fact it is very frustrating that there is no consistency between archive sites and especially their online catalogs. I almost wish that they could all be housed under one umbrella archive, and organize things in one place, but of course the American in me shudders at that kind of power. But you'd have to admit, it would be much more convenient for the researcher to have some standard website layouts and search forms, rather than have to relearn every site.<br />
Possible solution: practice, practice, practice.<br />
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<b>3. Catalog quality itself</b><br />
So, when were the holdings cataloged? It could vary quite a lot from collection to collection. Those labeled in the 1950's or 1960's might be less detailed than those labeled within the last decade. How can I know if a record is relevant to me without it actually having a detailed catalog description? I'm sure there are some tips about reading between the lines, but when I'm squinting really hard and barely reading what's <i>on</i> the lines, reading between them becomes exponentially more difficult than it might otherwise be.<br />
Possible solution: learn Czech.<br />
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<b>4. Technical requirements</b><br />
Something I'm really interested in finding are the zemský desky for my Moravian ancestors. Supposedly all these early records for Moravia are in tact and complete, and are housed in the archives in Brno. Searching the Brno archives' catalog, I found that many (well...some) of these super old records have been digitized. But some are only viewable with :::groan::: microsoft silverlight? Didn't that thing die a few years ago?<br />
Possible solution: ask my techie husband for help.<br />
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<b>5. How to search for something in Czech?</b><br />
English is an analytic language, and Czech is a synthetic language. Czech is highly inflected. This makes doing a google search, well, "interesting" is putting it mildly. What is second nature and intuitive in English is really tough in Czech. For a long time before I could speak any Czech except "pivo", "prosím", and "ty jsi Moravec", it didn't even matter; how would I have known what I was looking at anyway, even if I could search for it? I know that my language skills are drastically improving, because a few days ago I searched for >> Hilšer Frenštát tkadlec and found an article in Czech about my weaver ancestors, who were really important members of the Frenštát weaver's guild and the community there. With the help of several very patient Czech friends, I was able to read it and learned some really interesting stuff about my family - my <i>direct line</i> is this Hilšer family, and we go back to the 1640's in this place! More about that later - with links and details - but for now, I just want to mention that it's pathetic that it's taken me <i>a decade</i> of trying to research my Czechs to be able to get to this point. Doing a google search on my English ancestors is one of the first strategies I would try!<br />
Possible solution: learn Czech and ask for help from Czech speakers.<br />
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Anyway, these are my thoughts right now about why it is so difficult.<br />
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Do you have other theories about why searching these catalogs is so difficult? Any other possible solutions for how to improve at it?Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-12310896024661254672017-04-30T10:24:00.001-05:002017-04-30T10:24:34.367-05:00Church Record Sunday: Velké Heraltice 1737, pálení čarodějnic, "I'm not a witch, I'm your wife!"<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">
Today is <b><i><a href="https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C3%A1len%C3%AD_%C4%8Darod%C4%9Bjnic">pálení čarodějnic</a></i> </b>in the Czech Republic. It is a holiday for celebrating...witch burning. Whereas in the United States, the only time of the year that we really think about witches, broomsticks, and spooky stories told around campfires is at the end of October with Halloween, in the Czech world on the evening of April 30, people gather together and burn an effigy of a witch in village green, or in a big field. I've been told they don't really do this at the town square, since the other half of this custom is for everybody to drink lots of beer, and fire + beer = not a suitable combination for the village square. </div>
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Here are some photos of this custom, which today is mostly about hanging out with and having fun with your friends and neighbors. I wonder if they roast marshmallows over this fire.</div>
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In honor of the day, today's quiz has, you guessed it, a witch in the parish records.<br />
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</iframe>Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-28767002458727666422017-04-25T10:31:00.001-05:002017-04-25T10:31:49.321-05:00Tuesday's Tip: Backwards Searches using Národní archiv site badatelna.eu!<div dir="ltr" style="line-height: 1.38; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-top: 0pt;">
<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">How do you do a backwards search from a badatelna.eu link?</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Recently I have been using </span><a href="http://www.badatelna.eu/" style="text-decoration: none;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #1155cc; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">www.badatelna.eu</span></a><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> for some client research. This is the website for the National Archives of the Czech Republic, aka Nárdoní archiv. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Sometimes, you end up with a link to an image. I was trying desperately to figure out the book from the image. Here’s what I did: </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">1. I start from a direct link to the image, like this: </span><a href="http://www.badatelna.eu/fond/2098/reprodukce/?zaznamId=401670&reproId=589932" style="font-family: inherit; text-decoration-line: none;"><span style="color: #1155cc; text-decoration-line: underline; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">http://www.badatelna.eu/fond/2098/reprodukce/?zaznamId=401670&reproId=589932</span></a></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">How did I arrive at this link, you ask? Well, I was researching with my colleague and he performed the original search. But it is conceivable that one might arrive at the link (without notes on how they got there) in a number of different ways: in a document file, linked to a person in an online family tree, as a link in a blog, etc. </span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">So, how do I find the číslo inventář from a backwards search using the Narodní archiv site?</span></span></div>
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Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-25952302351840169832017-04-23T11:14:00.002-05:002017-04-23T11:18:28.560-05:00Gender, the temple, and another reason to learn some Czech<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: left;">
In order to do <a href="https://www.lds.org/topics/family-history/purpose-family-history-work?lang=eng&old=true">proxy temple work</a> for your ancestors, you need four things: a name, a date, a place, and a gender. This last category is because people who stand as proxy are either women or men.</div>
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After I first went through the temple for my own endowment and started doing it by proxy for the dead, I quickly decided that I was not interested in doing proxy work for people who didn't need it, didn't exist, or already had had it done. The endowment ceremony is almost two hours! I didn't want to waste my time. The only way to be somewhat close to sure that my efforts were worth it and that I wasn't wasting my time was to prepare my own names for the temple by actually doing the research.<br />
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In 2009 or so, before the Czech records came online, I found a record for a Frantisek Peter [sic] born in Moravia, who immigrated with his parents Josef Peter and Rosalie Konvicka [sic] to Texas in the first wave of Texas Czech chain migration. I input his information in FamilySearch, but accidentally clicked the wrong button for gender.<br />
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Suddenly František was a girl.<br />
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I made a new František with the same dates who was a boy and tried to merge them.<br />
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You can't merge people of different genders.<br />
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I didn't know how to fix it, so I reserved the name and put it on the back burner of my to-do list.<br />
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A few years ago, the temple reservation policy changed so that you can only hold names for two years. This was in order to release large amounts of names held by people who had died or who weren't sharing. This policy makes perfect sense. It means we have to re-reserve my grandpa's name every two years. We will not do the proxy temple work for him until my grandma passes away because we love her and want to respect her wishes.<br />
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So I went through and rereserved some names for temple work from back when I was first starting genealogy research, including this female František Peter.<br />
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Flash forward to 2017. Yesterday when we were at the temple, I accidentally selected female František from my list of reserved names, and the card was printed.<br />
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When we were in the temple, I gave some women a stack of cards for initiatories. František was in the stack. I pulled the name, suspecting it was totally incorrect, and slightly horrified that the baptism and confirmation had already been done!<br />
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<i>Nope, no Františka Petr in the Tichá index.</i><br />
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<i>Here you can see how I re-reserved František Peter the boy, and František Peter the girl.</i><br />
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<i>These are what all those little circles and colors mean. Yes, it totally feels like gamification.</i><br />
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<i>From the FamilySearch app (which is excellent), I can see that there are both František the boy and František the girl in this family. The second image is scrolled down a little further, since they had many children.</i><br />
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How to fix it:<br />
1. Find more information about the correct František's life. Add the information to FamilySearch.<br />
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2. You used to not be able to delete individuals. I think you can now, but the workaround is to edit all the female František's info so that it matches one of the sisters, and then merge those two people.<br />
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<i><a href="http://digi.archives.cz/da/permalink?xid=be862f06-f13c-102f-8255-0050568c0263&scan=30">Here is a link to the original record.</a></i><br />
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I am sure that the reason I didn't do this back in 2009 was because I couldn't confirm the birth records in the matriky, and because I was a noobie making noobie mistakes.<br />
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The silver lining from this frustrating and embarrassing experience is that it directed my attention: here is a family that needs to be<br />
researched. The research is very straightforward. The Czech and US sources are plentiful. It's like... Very, very easy. Like fruit on a tree right in arm's grasp. Low-hanging.<br />
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Think for a minute what would have happened if I had not had the background knowledge that František is a male name. We don't have this form of the name Frank. It almost looks like it could be feminine, if you didn't know any better. The result of ignorance: Duplicate work, sloppy tree, waste of time. Rather, a bigger waste of time than the accidental proxy baptism already was :-/<br />
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It is very, very important that Czech genealogists have some background knowledge of Czech, especially naming patterns! Your research will improve and you will be able to avoid mistakes which mess up the tree and cause problems for future researchers. You show the love and respect for your ancestors better. You have a more meaningful genealogical experience.<br />
<br />Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-70536898143622832012017-04-19T17:43:00.002-05:002017-04-19T17:47:39.242-05:00Watch out for that final a!<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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I was doing some research for my own Frenštát ancestors. <a href="http://vademecum.archives.cz/vademecum/permalink?xid=be85e76c-f13c-102f-8255-0050568c0263&scan=4">Here</a> is a link to this 26 April 1784 birth.<br />
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A very quick glance with my tired eyes, and at first I saw, "Johann Chodurin."<br />
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Well, at least I was able to catch my mistake. I hope it helps you to not make the same one.Kate Challishttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12635514280917316353noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-576813717291116657.post-79161760559392547212017-04-15T23:36:00.002-05:002017-04-15T23:36:50.812-05:00Church Record Sunday: Holešov, 1650's Pythagorean Theorem This goes on for several pages. I wonder what the story is behind this. I also wonder about the person keeping these records. Perhaps being a clergyman was not his original dream...<br />
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<span style="font-family: inherit; white-space: pre-wrap;">If it seems I’ve fallen off the face of the earth (or...blogosphere), there are a few good reasons why.</span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Why am I learning Czech? And more importantly, why should you?</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">I am really sick of being so reliant on my (very faulty) tools in order to understand my history. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">I am not in this field to “collect names.” I want to know these people. And they were </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">real</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> people, as the records continue to prove. People with flaws, hopes, dreams, thoughts, opinions, skills, problems, etc. These records are priceless treasure. They capture hints of humanity. They are really special to me. But how can I access the </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">meaning</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> if the records, and the records </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">about</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> the records, are all locked behind a reverse iron-curtain: my lack of Czech.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">So, I rely on really flawed tools like google translator, three screens (three brains!), and Advanced Google Searching 471. I </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">still</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> find the effort to transcribe the texts extremely time consuming and frustrating. I just want to be able to read without it being through this other medium, this foggy glass! I know that every layer of separation introduces some kind of error. I can’t help the separation of time, but I don’t have to compound the transcription errors by relying on reading the language through a translator...if I learn Czech.</span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">Even </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">more</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> significant is the </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">cultural knowledge</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> I lack because of my lack of Czech. Basically, learning Czech is not some incidental, nice, fringe task. It is the key to unlocking this world of knowledge that I am forever seeking. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">If you find that, like me, you want to really </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">know</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> these people, and really </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">understand</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> your Czech history and heritage, you might decide that you, too, should try to learn Czech.</span></span></div>
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<b style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">But how? Well...that cannot be answered in this blog post.</span></b><br />
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<b style="font-weight: normal;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">It's a really, really hard language for English speakers to learn.</span></b><br />
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">Basically, I feel an urgency that I cannot explain very well. It’s a strong overwhelming conviction to learn...<b><i>yesterday!</i></b> It’s a desire to spend all of my time focused on this one thing. I’ve always had a really advanced level of stick-to-it-ive-ness (aka tenacity), ever since I was a child. </span></span></div>
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<span style="font-family: inherit;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">For better or for worse, here I am with this strong conviction that learning Czech is the single most important thing that I can do in order to help improve and expand my genealogical expertise and knowledge. Learning Czech will open up all kinds of new sources, but more than that, it will help me to actually </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">know</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> these people. It will connect me - it already </span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: italic; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;">does</span><span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"> connect me - to my heritage in a way that nothing else can. Language is so tightly wound to history and culture. It is inseparable. It’s the medium by which these things were recorded, and unlike many other European countries, Czechia's valuable historical and demographic studies remain largely untranslated to English or German.</span></span></div>
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<span style="background-color: transparent; color: black; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-weight: 400; text-decoration: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;"><span style="font-family: inherit;">So, that’s what I’ve been up to lately: trying my hardest for the past ~14 weeks to learn this really difficult language. It’s very slow. But I definitely am learning. I was skyping with my friend Milan earlier today and was really shocked because I understood him! Responding in non-caveman-speak...now that’s a whole ‘nother ballgame.</span></span></div>
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